著名曼联 Blog Red Rants 作者 Penguin 发表了他对曼联中场 4 选 2 课题的长篇大论 United’s Midfield Dilemma. 我非常同意他的观点,所以节选一部分来翻译一下,水平有限,而且自己都觉得有些地方很生硬,所以还是推荐有心的人链接到原文去看。
Penguin 对四名球员的评价:
Paul Scholes:
Tackling – 3/10 – has always been dreadful, and is too old to improve now!
抢断:3/10 一直不是他强项,而且随着年龄的增加很难有所提高。
Ball Rentention – 10/10 – always seems to have time and space, regardless of pressure, and rarely misplaces a pass.
控球能力:10/10(作者对他这个 Ball Retention 的解释是“在有压力情况下控好球并传出去”)能很好地找到时间和空间,避开压力传出好球。
Creativity – 7/10 – prompts constantly by using the ball quickly and intelligently, but doesn’t crop up in as advanced positions as he used to. Still capable of finding a magic through ball (Milan first leg for Rooney last season, anyone?)
创造力:7/10 处理球还是那么快速聪明,但已经达不到以前的高度了。仍然有能力传出精彩的直塞球(上赛季对 Milan 第一回合给 Rooney 的助攻,记得吧?)
Goal-scoring – 6/10 – again, doesn’t get forward as much as he used to but remains a big threat from range.
得分能力:6/10 不能像以前那样频繁助攻到门前直接得分,但在远距离仍是对方一大威胁。
Other – getting older now, and you can see the difference in his pitch coverage (and consequently his goal return). Despite everything Fergie says, I can’t see him featuring regularly beyond next season. On his day, though, in a league of his own.
其它:岁月不饶人,在场上的表现和以前年轻时大不相同了(进球也少了)。不管弗爷怎么说,下个赛季以后,我将会很少见他在场上表现了。
Owen Hargreaves
Tackling – 9/10 – what he was bought for, and what he’s best at.
抢断:9/10 正是我们买他的原因,也是他的强项所在。
Ball Rentention – 7/10 – doesn’t try the spectacular, just gives it to his more talented team mates.
控球能力:7/10 不会冒险作出惊人之举,只会把球给其它更具天赋的队友。
Creativity – 4/10 – rarely gets far enough forward to make a difference, and his stock pass goes sideways.
创造力:4/10 很少深入前插助攻去寻机会,传球也是本份的分向两侧。
Goal-scoring – 0/10 – not as yet, and with Ronaldo around he’s not going to get many free kicks either.
得分能力:0/10 至今还没进球(昨晚刚进一个),而且有 C.罗在,罚任意球的机会也少。
Other – one word: injuries; we’re not going to see what he’s capable of until he’s fit enough to play 10 games in a row.
其它:一个字,伤病问题,至少要等他完全康复连踢 10 场比赛,否则我们还不能完全看出他的能力。
Michael Carrick
Tackling – 7/10 – you don’t often see him go to ground, but his positional sense is good and he screens intelligently.
抢断:7/10 你很少见他倒地放铲,但他良好的位置感能聪明地卡位防守。
Ball Rentention – 8/10 – has learned a lot from Scholes, but isn’t up there with the master yet.
控球能力:8/10 在 Scholes 身上学到很多,但还达不到 Master 的境界。
Creativity – 9/10 – he always looks to pass the ball forward first, and can pick those eye-of-the-needle passes which undo tight defences.
创造力:9/10 但拿球的第一选择总是把球往前传,而且能传出“针眼般精细”的球直接撕开对方紧密的防线。
Goal-scoring – 4/10 – picked up the message last season that he needs to contribute, and can score from distance.
得分能力:4/10 从上赛季来看他有这方面能力,能远(距离)射进球。
Other – a confidence player, who lapsed badly at the start of this season when he found himself dropped for a spell.
其它:一个充满自信的球员,这个赛季初状态糟糕,但已努力找回了状态。
Anderson
Tackling – 7/10 – very aggressive hustler, never gives opponents a moment’s peace
抢断:7/10 一名非常有侵略性的悍将,从不给对手一分钟的喘息时间。
Ball Rentention – 6/10 – more inclined to try flicks or dribbles which don’t come off, but not bad.
控球能力:6/10 喜欢搞些没必要的脚法和盘带,但搞的还不错-_-…
Creativity – 8/10 – the only one who can beat a series of players and who will play down the channels as well; very good support for the front players.
创造力:8/10 唯一一名可以过掉一群对手的球员,也是唯一一名将来可以通吃到底的球员,是锋线非常好的支援。(翻译的不好,实在不好翻译)
Goal-scoring – 2/10 – the floodgates must open soon…the potential’s certainly there.
得分能力:2/10 进球水闸即将打开…… 潜力摆在那里!
Other – he’s good this season, so god knows what he could be eventually.
其它:这个赛季踢的很好,所以鬼才知道他最终会变成怎样一个“妖人”。
两种选择搭配的方法:
1. Have a first choice pair, who play 75% of the games together, with others providing ability to rotate and cover for injury.
找出一对踢 75% 比赛的搭档,其它球员参与轮换和伤停补充。
Pros – first choice pair develop instinctive understanding (Carrick and Scholes had this going on last year, as did our whole Treble-winning midfield – they didn’t even need to look up to know where their mate was going to be)
- consistency also benefits the rest of the team, who know exactly what’s coming from the centre of the park.
利:长期搭档的球员能滋生出直觉性的默契(去年 Carrick 和 Scholes 就是,三冠王赛季的中场也是如此,这样的话他们踢球不用抬头去找队友的位置)
- 这种方法对全队其它球员也有利,他们能更好地理解从中场中路传出来的球。
Cons – Doesn’t make full use of the talent pool and may cause players to leave
- injuries etc have a more disruptive effect
- see the reasons for option 2 below
弊:好多天才球员不能完全使用,可能导致球员离走。
- 伤病等情况影响很大
2. Pick a partnership based on the match you’re going into.
依照对手选择搭档
Pros – can tailor the strengths of the individuals to the requirements of the game (eg Hargreaves for big games to shackle dangerous midfielders, Scholes in games where experience is judged key, etc)
- retains freshness
利:可以针对一场比赛的需要,根据球员自己的特点选择搭档(比如,在一些重大比赛需要遏制对方危险的中场球员使用 Hargo, 在一些比赛经验是关键点的比赛中派 Scholes 等)
- 保持新鲜度
Cons – just look at Liverpool for the downsides of constant tinkering
- players play as individuals rather than a partnership
弊:-看看 Liverpool 那糟糕的轮换吧
-球员更注重个人能力而忽视配合
最后 Penguin 选择了 A8 + C16 组合,理由如下:
- They both add a huge amount going forward. I absolutely adore Carrick’s instinct to find a piercing ball forwards to feet – Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez are all good enough to receive this sort of ball with a man at their back and do something with it, and are equally likely to be making runs in behind. I think we will get a lot of goals from Carrick’s passing. Equally, Anderson is a good passer of the ball and a potentially superb dribbler (great upper body strength, a la Rooney) who can support the front players.
- 他们都能对前场提供大的支持。我非常欣赏 Carrick 能传出致命球的能力。Rooney Ronaldo Tevez 非常容易得到这些球,而且他们也可以选择后撤再前插。我想我们可以接 Carrick 的传球进很多球。同样的,Anderson 也是一个很好的传球手,而且有潜力成为一个盘带高手为锋线球员提供支持。
- They both do enough defensively. Most teams set up very tight against us, and we’re happy to go man-for-man at the back if needs be, so the attacking penetration is crucial (this is the key argument against Hargreaves, other than injury). Which is not to say they can’t come out on top in a midfield scrap, or hold their own in a physical game.
- 他们的防守也足够积极。许多球队在对我们时防守非常紧密,人盯人防守我们没问题,所以进攻的渗透性就至关重要(我是对 Hargo 争议最大的一部分)(后一句不好翻,come out on top 是“成功”的意思)
- Carrick – who is the more controversial choice – is a confidence player. Give him responsibility and a long run in the side and he seems to grow into it. He is also a big game player (witness the two Roma games last season, where he was superb in each leg – a defensive midfield masterclass in the first, and a game-bossing, two-goal performance in the second). What he is not going to be is a useful squad player like Fletcher.
- Carrick 是一名自信的球员,选择他很具争议性。他正成长为能胜任给他责任的球员。他同时也是一个大赛性球员(看看去年对罗马的两回合比赛都是超级发挥,第一回合展现了他的防守大师风采,第二回合则是一个比赛统治者,进两球的表现)他不会成为像 Fletcher 那样的“角色”球员。
- Both are young and not injury-prone – you really can see them playing 30 games a season with each other without disruption, and doing this for the next 5 seasons. Continuity really makes a difference.
- 两个都很年轻而且不易受伤,他们一个赛季可以一起踢 30 场比赛,而且未来 5 个赛季都可以如此,这种连续性起着重大作用。
有兴趣的可以将那篇文章下面的留言读完,看来曼联这个 4 选 2 课题已经成为曼联球迷共同研究的课题了。




值得研究的问题 有时候人太多真得很烦 呵呵 :em18:
Scholes easily get hurt now and is lacking of energy,he is incompetent the entire match ,I hold this .
以后的一两年将要退去竞争了。
现在或者是5选2了?